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OpenNCP Community: Weekly meeting

9th June 10:00 to 11:00  CET 

AGENDA

a) epSOS Final Meetings Retrospective and ActionsStork meets OpenNCP: new developments planned
b) Developments progress monitoringOpenNCP Community Future/Manifesto
c) Support actionsepSOS Final NEPC/TMP message
d) AOB

  • Concerns on OpenNCP Wiki Page 

 

 

LOCATION

- Skype (licinio.mano) + JoinMe + Work Boards

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PARTICIPANTS

Today's Meeting Participants:

Licinio Mano <licinio.mano@spms.min-saude.pt>,Heiko Zimmermann <Heiko.Zimmermann@agence-esante.lu>,

Marcelo Fonseca <marcelo.fonseca@iuz.pt>,

Stéphane Spahni <stephane.spahni@hcuge.ch>,

Gareth Woodham <Gareth.Woodham@apotekensservice.se>,

Kostas Karkaletsis <k.karkaletsis@gnomon.com.gr>,

Konstantin Hypponen <konstantin.hypponen@kela.fi>,

Isabel Cruz <isabel.cruz@iuz.pt>,

Heiko Zimmermann <Heiko.Zimmermann@agence-esante.lu>,

Fredrik Linden <fredriklinden1@gmail.com>,

Ivo Pinheiro <ivo.pinheiro@iuz.pt>, 

Alexander Berler <a.berler@gnomon.com.gr>,

Invited Members List:

Ivo Pinheiro <ivo.pinheiro@iuz.pt>, 

Konstantin Hypponen <konstantin.hypponen@kela.fi>,

(not able to join) Karima Bourquard <karima.bourquard@ihe-europe.net>,

Juergen (not able to join) Kostas Karkaletsis <k.karkaletsis@gnomon.com.gr>,

(not able to join) Juergen Wehnert <juergen.wehnert@gematik.de>,

Marcello (not able to join) Marcello Melgara <Marcello.Melgara@cnt.lispa.it>,


Invited Members List:

Thomas Fleischmann <thomas.fleischmann@bmg.gv.at>

Samuel Danhardt <Samuel.Danhardt@agence-esante.lu>,

 Stéphane Spahni <stephane.spahni@hcuge.ch>,

Giorgio Cangioli <giorgio.cangioli@gmail.com>,

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Agius Muscat Hugo at MEH-IMU-Health <hugo<hugo.agius-muscat@govmuscat@gov.mt>,

Steen Manniche <steen@manniche.net>,Catherine Chronaki<chronaki@gmail.com>,

Matic Meglic<matic.meglic@nijz.si>,

Mate Beštek <matebestekpro@gmail.com>,

Merik Seven <seven@nictiz.nl>,

Henrique Martins <henrique.martins@spms.min-saude.pt>,

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epSOS NEPC <nepc@epsos.eu>,

MEETING NOTES

 

a)

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  • Passed the message that the OpenNCP Community is trying hard to make things move on (towards a governance/business model).. 
    • That we count with the commitment of everyone that is interested.
    • But it is not being easy, due to the technical nature of the community
    • Additional expert support has been requested (are needed) for establishing the needed changes, namely the ones related to funding schemes.
  • IHE presented a proposal for sustain and enhance some technical issues:
    • Technical services for supporting: maintaining specifications;
    • Technical services for supporting: OpenNCP Community activity; 
    • Technical services for supporting: testing tools;
  • eHN Subgroup for upkeep cross border health services + EXPAND
    • Will work closely for enabling (provide the right environment) the continuity of services.
      • eHN SG: Governance for services
      • EXPAND WP5: Technical Coordination + OpenNCP Community.
      • EXPAND WP?: Services Operation Support
      • ??IHE: SPECS and TESTING: methods and tools;
  • Konstantin Hyppönen
    • Project + Project: short term approach... waiting for CEF umbrella.
    • KELA: is not of expand; but FI: is;
      • How to arrange the maintenance;
      • OpenNCP is also part of the strategy;
      • Kela: is not inside 

 

b) Developments progress monitoring

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  • Round tour on the development board;
  • Test trategy has been stressed in order to include some IHE test integration.
    • Mock application that AT provided..no test
  • TimeGoals
    • End developments at the 20th.
    • Achievable?
      • The team believes it's on schedule.
  • Developments SCOPE, changed after last OpenNCP meeting....
    • Health Care Providers: more complicated;
    • Patients: more easy;

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  • We believe that the implementation is aligned and it

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Stork meets OpenNCP: new developments planned

  • Isabel email from Thu, 5 Jun 2014
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    Dear all

    Speaking in name of iUZ and Gnomon, we are pleased to inform the openNCP community that we will be conducting new technical developments to extend the openNCP and associated portal infrastructure with Stork based Authentication mechanism, to be deployed next 23rd June.

    After an initial approach at last Vienna’s Connectathon and further common discussions held during the eHealthForum 2014 event in Athens, Gnomon and iUZ have presented a Joint Proposal to the Austrian Federal Ministry of Health for the following integration of STORK with OpenNCP Liferay portal:

               1. Each country has to set up a STORK application and integrate it with national authentication mechanism;

               2. Then in OpenNCP portal, when a user needs to login he will be redirected to the STORK website instead of the embedded login portlet;

               3. The STORK website will handle the authentication and then go back to OpenNCP Liferay portal with the needed information (i.e in a SAML assertion format);

               4. The OpenNCP Portal has to trust this and proceed with the login.

     Considering that the proposal states that “User Acceptance Test and processes will be based on openNCP community methodology” and “Developed components will be made available to openNCP community under OSS licensing terms”, we would like to know if you see any inconvenience on this approach.

     Given the critical moment we are facing regarding the discussions around openNCP community sustainability, we strongly believe this approach could provide the openNCP community an opportunity to test its procedures and openness beyond epSOS project.

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  • Questions / ACTIONS / STATEMENTS
    • Countries involved in the developments?
      • So far only industry....
      • Fredrik Linden (Unlicensed): eGovLab: engage with the OpenNCP for providing support to this kind of components;
    • Governance Model is key for having alignment from industry and other participants
    • OpenNCP Methods and tools should be used to keep everything together and aligned.
    • Heiko Zimmermann: Technically
      • How will the new developments be included in the OpenNCP code:
        • Just Liferay? will there be any  changes in other components?
          • At this moment only the OpenNCP Portal will receive changes.
      • Further information should be considered for assuring Stork specs full alignment.
    • Fredrik Linden (Unlicensed): Alignment with Fraunhofer ESS (Extended Security Safegards)
    • Isabel Cruz and Jürgen Wehnert have been talking with Fraunhofer in order to assure alignment with ESS.
    • Licinio Kustra Mano:
      • Roadmap / Releases:
        • Can be included in the next MINOR RELEASE from the OpenNCP 2.2.0.
      • :Repositories:
        • New project: for handling the NEW component "code plugin"
      • Tooling:
        • BitBucket...
        • Use different boards or reuse the currently available DEVELOPMENT Board.
          • Combine a single board....
      • People:
        • Licinio Kustra Mano: during the weekly meetings
          • Topic in the agenda, but not sure about how deep technical details can go.
          • Technical discussions would allow better knowledge sharing. 

b) OpenNCP Community Future/Manifesto

  • OpenNCP > Vision and Mission (needs review)
    • VISION
      • ...design and develop a set of Open Source Components (OpenNCP) that can be adopted by Participating Nation (are there any other clients???, other organizations, other scopes), to build their local implementation of the epSOS NCP (any other projects,).
        • How to deal with different nature of interests (countries, regions, projects and industry)
          • There is a list of 40 projects running in EU HealthCare - EHR4CR.... reuse the OpenNCP
    • MISSION
      • ...Open group of people orchestrated by an agile software development methodology conducting effort on designing, coding, testing and delivering OpenNCP technology
  • Future of the OpenNCP Community
    • Alexander Berler (Unlicensed): has added structural changes to the document so that it can be more MANIFESTO like document;
      • Effort estimation: need to be clarified with some text explaining what it means and other things/cost that should be considered for 
      • CENTRAL Promoter: who will handle agreements (centrally, bilaterally)... what should be done there?
        • Federated model? 
        • Central model? Like epSOS... one contracting authority....
    • Licinio Kustra Mano: is available for be in the loop and try to get feedback.

 

c) Support actions

  • Certificates - NCP Installation
    • Are there any news on AT issue: 
      Jira Legacy
      serverJIRA (openncp.atlassian.net)
      serverId5eab37ce-f509-3cbb-9925-c13d0f8d6d44
      keyOPENNCP-62
      • AT: managed to solve the issue with support from IVO.
      • CH and AT will try to test in September
      • Still open but the last feedback received from Thomas Fleischmann was positive, so we hope to close it soon.
  • IHE 2014 Connectathon Results
  • OpenNCP 2.1.1 Release
    • Progress monitoring: COMPLETED.
      • What else needs to be done? So far so good, until any issue to be raise it is DONE.
        • Should we do a release NOTE? confirm if Ivo has done it.
  • OpenNCP Manifesto
    • Current Document: download 
    • Actions:
      • Update: Vision, Mission
      • Update: Set Governance Model
      • Update: identity
      • Update: goals
  • OpenNCP Wiki updates
    • Enhance the following pages:
    • profile landing page... 

    • SEO: Circulation of the document restricted to the OpenNCP Community:
      • Circulate a new version of the document for review.
    • Alexander Berler (Unlicensed):
      • In a near future we need to have a cost estimate...(time, effort, money)...
      • Depending on how many Countries will join the effort, the cost will not be significantly regarding the value that the OpenNCP can provide for each country or project;
      • Per Participating Nation contribution, an estimate of investment in different scenarios 5 PN interest ---- 10 PN interest) 
        • More PN involved, will lower individual countries investment.
        • Projects can also be considered as clients or industry player (for research and investigation);
    • Fredrik Linden (Unlicensed): hopes to be able to dedicate 5% of time...


c) epSOS Final NEPC/TMP message

  • -.... Should there be any message/presentation from our side
    • Update the Technical epSOS Presentation....
      • No formal is requested from epSOS;
    • Isabel CruzAlexander Berler (Unlicensed)
      • Pass the message that the OpenNCP Community is trying hard to make things move on.. and by that we count with the commitment of everyone that is interested.
      • - 2 slides... OnOpenNCP Community...
      • Licinio Kustra Mano: circulate slides. 

 


d) AOB

  • Ideas for improving the OpenNCP Wiki Page

    •  Better profile landing page... example: do a google search..... the result is not clarifying.... 

    • Create presentation: OpenNCP For dummies..BRAND the
    • OpenNCP CommunityMarketing - image, logo.....  park domain url (openncp.net)
  • epSOS Documentation
    • Fredrik Linden (Unlicensed): Update epSOS Technical Presentation.
      • No volunteers with free time for that?
        • Maybe in the last week of June, but not for sure...
  • CI Migration - Developments
    • Requirements document that is being used for setting up the new infrastructure
      • Download document
      • Infrastructure is being set up, so  that the migration work start.
        • Not sure if this work will be ready before 15th of July
        • SPMS should enter in contact with iUZ to review work ahead.

 

d) AOB

  • Liaison with other projects
    • (There is a list of 40 projects running in EU HealthCare - EHR4CR.... reuse the OpenNCP)
    • EXPAND
      • Provide guidance for OpenNCP and OpenNCP Community
    • Trillium Bridge
      • After Athens Workshop what has been done
        • Alexander Berler (Unlicensed) a lot of discussion is being held.
          • Catherine is living in Boston, so the time for the call needs to be different, namely during afternoon: after 1600 CET, or even later.
    • e-SENS
      • WP5.2 eHEALT Pilots:
        • PT: PS: Patient electronic identification (Portugal)
        • SP, AT, CH: aiming to PAC with Stork building eID 
    • eGovLab
    • PARENT - Patient Registries
      • OpenNCP as base technology for exchanging information between Registries.
    • ??
  • !?!?!?!
    • ....
    • ......

  • Releasing the OpenNCP 2.1.1
    • What need to be done for this to happen before June 30th???
      • Ivo Pinheiro: PAC UC changes need a new release for being available to PNs.
        • Feasible until the end of June.
      • Karima: check IHE CAT final results;
      • Ivo Pinheiro: will work hard for doing it this week.... 13rd June...... (supported by Marcelo Fonseca)
  • Certifcates - NCP Installation
    • (sad).... need to contact with Thomas....
    • The suggestion from epSOS is to buy extension of the certificates, expiration date could be 3 years from now..... 
      • epSOS will try to inform PNs on their schedule for renew
      • Jira Legacy
        serverJIRA (openncp.atlassian.net)
        serverId5eab37ce-f509-3cbb-9925-c13d0f8d6d44
        keyOPENNCP-62
      • AU: is willing to join the epSOS PPT environment or something else PPT environment?
        • If yes, the certificate requirements should be compliant epSOS specs.
          • PPT requirements: are relaxed;
          • but for a PPT or CAT event, they need to have valid certificates;
  • CI Migration 
    • PT (already been approved by the epSOS PSB, DEC2013), IHE (manifestation of interest), eGOvLab (meeting)
      • iUZ is hosting and managing it....
        • PT > I believe we could do this migration in 1 month... 1st July... hand over CEF .. PT will host until the services is handover to EC (trough CEF).
      • IHE > is preparing a proposal for presenting in the next PSB (will be presented tomorrow, 28th)
      • eGOBLab > ask Fredrik if there is any other good reasons (besides capability) for handing this to eGOBLab.

 


ACTIONS NEEDED

today meeting actions

  •  Schedule next meeting: 23th 16th of June (Monday) from, 10:00 to 11:00 CET (60min)
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previously identified actions - keep track

  •  Schedule next meeting: 16th of June (Monday) from, 10:00 to 11:00 CET (60min)
  •  Licinio Kustra Mano: Schedule next meeting: 9th of June (Monday) from, 10:00 to 11:00 CET (60min)
  •  Licinio Kustra Mano: prepare and circulate (for community review) the document "OpenNCP Community Manifesto" ,
  •  Licinio Kustra Mano: Schedule next meeting: 3rd of June (Tuesday) from, 12:00 to 13:00 CET (60min)
  •  Licinio Kustra Mano: Distribute editable roadmap materials, as well as ballpark estimate baseline numbers
  •  Industry Team: Alexander Berler (Unlicensed) and Isabel Cruz: provide accurate estimates on time and costs (until 30th of May)
  •  Licinio Kustra Mano: Compile and re-assemble presentations, making them available in PDF format.
  •  Licinio Kustra Mano: Update the Athens event page with all the highlighs, so that the page can be distributed (with the PDF) for dissemination purposes. 
  •  Licinio Kustra Mano: CI proposal from eGOBLab: update Fredrik and request for advise on how to proceed;
  •  Licinio Kustra Mano: CI recommend Portugal, to materialize the proposed and accepted by the PSB alternative, for holding the CI on their own;
  •  Jürgen Wehnert: Disseminate epSOS information on certificates renewing possibility for the next 3 years 
  •  Licinio Kustra Mano: Make available the list of 15 Countries that shown interest in keeping the services running (included in the minutes)
  •  Licinio Kustra Mano: Understand the AT team issues, and why they are struggling with certificates

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